The Hero Inside Photographs by Jill Shaw

[Ben Jones]

We have a few copies of the book ‘The Hero Inside Photographs by Jill Shaw’, which was on sale at the Convention left.

The Hero Inside is the officially authorised fund-raising book for Help for Heroes, the charity founded in 2007 to support servicemen and women wounded in the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan. Conceived and photographed by Gill Shaw, this inspirational book is a thought-provoking and, at times, emotional record of the experiences and traumas both on the battlefield and at home and is a tribute to our Armed Forces and those who support them on their return.

An average of £2 per copy from this publication will be donated to help the heroes.
Charity no.1120920
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Please use the form linked below, to purchase the Book quoting The Hero Inside Book' in the promotion box:
https://swpp.co.uk/secure/online_shop.htm

Price £9.99
   
1st class post is included, if you would like it sent recorded delivery please add £2.50 to the order.

[paulbrown1]

I have a copy and it has some really inspiring stories in it.  So buy a copy, help a Charity and be inspired to be the best you can after reading it.  Congratulations to Gill also, for all the work she has had to do to get it off the ground.

[Ian Bonthrone]

If you are free the weekend of 20 & 21st March there is also a H4H Photography Seminar Weekend running in Yorkshire.  Some valuable training with some excellent mentors all giving their time for this worthwhile charity.

Details http://www.markpearsonphotography.co.uk/h4h.php

Anything anyone can do for this charity is of benefit to our Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen who are being seriously injured and maimed on a daily basis in Afghanistan.

Buy Gill's Book & attend this Event

Ian

[Tim Hoy]

....to our Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen

And women.  Don't forget them (unlike the governments of every political colour who forget the servicemen AND women until of course they need something life threatening to be done).  If in any of the conflicts the politicians help to create they had to send their children into the front line before the rest of the armed services, how much enthusiasm do you think there would be to leap in without proper kit and the requisite UN resolutions?

One day the enthusiasm for sending our children off to fight by governments too busy getting their moats cleaned might be matched by their enthusiasm to ensure they come back safely or at least give them the things they need to cope after losing limbs, eyesight, organs (and most commonly swept under the carpet) their mental health.

A significant number of homeless people and prisoners are ex services.  I know of seven people I served with in the submarine service who are still receiving treatment for their mental health some 20-30 years after they were medically retired.  When I raise these issues, I get accused of being non patriotic and yet when I donate to H4H I'm seen as some sort of hero myself.  If we don't speak out against these double standards and the lunacy of sending our young men and women to their early demise, then we are no better than the dodgy politicians.  War is very profitable for lawyers but not very helpful for those of us who pay taxes.  The non fiscal losses (ie human life - or what governments call "collateral damage" however make any money arguments pale into insignificance.   

[Ian Bonthrone]

....to our Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen

And women.  Don't forget them (unlike the governments of every political colour who forget the servicemen AND women until of course they need something life threatening to be done).  If in any of the conflicts the politicians help to create they had to send their children into the front line before the rest of the armed services, how much enthusiasm do you think there would be to leap in without proper kit and the requisite UN resolutions?

One day the enthusiasm for sending our children off to fight by governments too busy getting their moats cleaned might be matched by their enthusiasm to ensure they come back safely or at least give them the things they need to cope after losing limbs, eyesight, organs (and most commonly swept under the carpet) their mental health.

A significant number of homeless people and prisoners are ex services.  I know of seven people I served with in the submarine service who are still receiving treatment for their mental health some 20-30 years after they were medically retired.  When I raise these issues, I get accused of being non patriotic and yet when I donate to H4H I'm seen as some sort of hero myself.  If we don't speak out against these double standards and the lunacy of sending our young men and women to their early demise, then we are no better than the dodgy politicians.  War is very profitable for lawyers but not very helpful for those of us who pay taxes.  The non fiscal losses (ie human life - or what governments call "collateral damage" however make any money arguments pale into insignificance.   

Tim,
Whilst agreeing with your sentiments as an ex serviceman myself can I just make 3 points in order of importance:
1.  Soldiers, Sailors, and Airmen is a generic statement that covers all sexes. Funnily enough Soldier and Sailor as words have no male or female derivatives.
2.  The present major conflict Afghanistan is a legal war.
3.  There are many fiscal losses.  For every coffin we see driven through Wooton Basset there are hundreds returning wounded many of whom will be a fiscal cost for the rest of their lives.

When asked to jump it is not the serviceman (woman)'s duty to ask WHY just to ask HOW HIGH.
However it is the duty of the Country (Govn't & Population) to support those we ask to jump.

Ian
Ps Must have had a pint in your Pub when at Wattisham - good luck for the future.

[Ian Bonthrone]

Tim,
Sorry this should have gone on a different post but was too quick to hit post.

Ps Must have had a pint in your Pub when at Wattisham - good luck for the future.

[Tim Hoy]

1.  Soldiers, Sailors, and Airmen is a generic statement that covers all sexes. Funnily enough Soldier and Sailor as words have no male or female derivatives.
2.  The present major conflict Afghanistan is a legal war.
3.  There are many fiscal losses.  For every coffin we see driven through Wooton Basset there are hundreds returning wounded many of whom will be a fiscal cost for the rest of their lives.

When asked to jump it is not the serviceman (woman)'s duty to ask WHY just to ask HOW HIGH.
However it is the duty of the Country (Govn't & Population) to support those we ask to jump.

1. No it doesn't - no one has bothered to update the terms used for centuries thus excluding women in the RAF (agreed sailors and soldiers are not gender specific terms)
2. Yes a bit like getting your arm blown off by "friendly" fire.  It hurts so much less when your war is a legal one.
3. Absolutely agree and your final sentence qualifies my original point.  Support those who jump not reliant on magnanimous and deserving charities but by an obligation (tax) and proper government commitment to support those they send to war.

Finally - we established incontrovertibly after WW2 in Nurnburg that "I was just following orders" is not an arguable defence for murder.

[Ian Bonthrone]

To save taking away from the thread and it's worthy cause, I will not respond only because it is a topic that although very worthy of debate could drag on.

Lets all support those who require support.

[Tim Hoy]

Absolutely.  I already have the book and have been involved in fundraising for H4H since it started via the RNA and British Legion.  I only missed the convention H4H event because I was shooting Caron & Steve's wedding (Nedine will verify she forwarded my donation though).